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That's a great and thorough comparison. Thanks for the link!
 

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Wow that's so cool I have had/have both these and agree the FiST stole my heart too :)
 

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Thanks - just the comparo I have been waiting to see, these 2 are at the top of my shopping list. Looks like the major negatives for the twins - that torque dip in the mid RPM range, and the somewhat deficient overall power - are going to be addressed next year in a refresh, prototypes have been caught testing alternative engines. Hopefully the refresh will do something about its crude chainsaw engine sound as well.
 

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Before buying my FiST I test drove the BRZ and It was definitely close but I was really turned off by the interior, the fact that it was only 2 doors and the lack of power in comparison to the ST. Subaru also had really high finance rates in comparison to the 0% I got from Ford!
 

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Only 2 things I don't like about the BRZ Limited interior:

- the aftermarket looking nav/HU
- the cheap plasticy silver finish on the passenger side dash. Simple enough to swap the dash panel with the identical cf-look one from the FR-S though.
 

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What bothers me about the FR-S is that it's a Toyota for one... BRZ is essentially the exact same car. Interior looks very lacking. Starts at $25,255 for a manual one. Options to add are minimal. No Recaro seat options. An optioned out ST with MO paint, nav, recaros, and grey wheels gets you more for the price at $25,985. Take off the grey wheels and it's $25,610.

I thought about taking an FR-S or BRZ for a test drive just so I can have my own opinion on the ST and the car that is the closest comparison point to it. Maybe I will at some point.
 

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The seats in the FRS are good enough not to need recaro's at least I liked the way they fit and held you during track/AutoX events ..
 

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It's a good comparison although being rwd and a coupe the twins aren't in the same class as our beloved fist. Had I wanted a rwd coupe, I'd probably be on the FRS owners site.
 

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It's a good comparison although being rwd and a coupe the twins aren't in the same class as our beloved fist. Had I wanted a rwd coupe, I'd probably be on the FRS owners site.
But it really is the closest comparison point. The only real competitor to the Fiesta ST is the Focus ST. There's people that are really just trying to make a choice between the two and many choose the Focus simply because it's larger (or has better name recognition).
 

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I think the Mini and Fiat might be closer vs a rwd car but do rule out all those pesky VW and yes if you load them up they can be just as pricey as a loaded FoST within reason.
 
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