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Here's a place to talk about our proposed group buy with 2J Racing.

Several of us expressed interest in buying a set of coilovers, and it's time to see if we have seven or more members willing to commit.

I'm in for a "street setup". I'd like to preserve near-stock ride height, and I'm also interested in options for inverted body shocks and a remote reservoir setup. I don't know if this is even an option for our application, but I'd like to find out.

Assuming seven, what's our price for the standard build, each?

Who's in? :)
 

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Hey guys, I'm actually curious about the Bilsteins too, but this is the "BC coilover group buy thread". We had people ready to buy, and this is the list to nail that down.

Joe: Can you answer a few questions here to get folks to commit to this group buy? How much is the standard BC coilover at seven buyers? Do you have remote reservoir or inverted shock bodies for our FiST? Thanks!
 

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These are currently not available with an inverted shock body or remote reservoir; however, I dont think its necessary. They way the street spec BCs held up at the track with amazing composure the other options arent necessary at all. The street spec is that good. I think these are the best coilovers on the market right now for the ST at this price.

Each set will be 30way adjustable, compression/rebound. And each will have the valving and spring rates matched for the Fiesta ST, therefore it will take a minimum of 3 weeks to build the sets. They will all ship around the same time as they will be built in a batch. Meaning once we hit 7, the bulk order will go in.

You will order at www.2j-racing.com when we hit 7 and I will adjust the price. All our orders go through a SSL connection and you can use your CC or PayPal. We dont accept Amex.

The price will be $300 less than the MSRP of $1250. We ship to Canada and worldwide.
Thanks, Joe -- I'm still in. :)

Guys, here's a chance to make a huge improvement to the handling of your FiST! We have two confirmed and a few on the fence. Spread the good word and let's get our orders in!
 

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Hey guys, there isn't much margin on these BCs. $950 is a very fair deal. I agree that the sentiment here is that people are in at $950, but not much more. That's okay with me too. Let's give this a little room to air out and see where it leaves us. There's no harm in that.

We've given Joe some exposure, and I'm sure he's okay with that too. Maybe he'll develop his site to have more FiST stuff, the Nissan side (especially the B15) looks very nice. :)
 

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Anybody heard from Joe? I figured he might be on vacation over the holiday, but now it's time to get back to the grind ... i.e. selling us some stuff!
Right, I figured that was part of the delay. There's a few questions that have been asked here, and I have some of the same. I also imagine Joe is active on LOTS of forums, he'll make his way back here. :)
 

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The price ($950) includes free shipping. And you can add extra spring pairs (like a 5K rear, etc) for just $99 a pair.

Please keep in mind, the car will ride "softer" with the BCs set at the dampening I mentioned above. Softer than stock. The bounciness and stiffness of the stock suspension goes away.

ALSO: With BCs, the ride height setting is INDEPENDENT of the spring preload. Meaning, you can lengthen and shorten the entire shock body without affecting the shock travel or spring preload (unlike GCs or KWs). This means no matter how low or high you go, the shock will always perform the same.
That sounds great! When you (your linked site, anyhow) states "valve matched" for the spring rates, what is done? I'm asking about the idea that we start with your suggested 6/4K then decide on significantly different rate springs, later.
 

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Each order is custom made - meaning, someone can order 7K/5K (thats +1K front/rear) and the valving for that specific set will be matched with the spring rate chosen. And its set up to run +- 2K, if you decide to go up or down in rates later on.

Think of it like this, spring releases energy and its the job of the shock to dampen it. High spring rates, poor dampening equal a choppy ride. So the shock valving has to be matched to the spring energy.
Thank you. You answered my real question as expressed in +/- 2K rate factor tolerance. I understand the basics of suspension theory. :)
 

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We're getting there. If you read back, you've missed a couple that also committed.

Also, how am I 2nd?! I started this list! :)

On a serious note, can I order and receive my set now? I'm willing to pay the higher price and get a refund later -- I'd love to have these for my 2/2 track run at SoW!
 

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Another question: are you using the max camber adjustment? I understand the BCs have a slotted hole at the strut attachment for camber adjustment. Just wondering what the max is. I will only add 1.5° same as you since my car is a daily driver.
I recall Joe saying you could do -2.5 degrees of camber -- but way too much on a street car. :)
 

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Hey Joe what rear spring rates you using on this group build ?
I just talked to Joe about this. Unless you specify otherwise, it's 6K front, 4K rear. I went with this.

This came up because he does a lot of Nissan B15 work and uses 7K back there most often (and his site didn't let you actually pick lower than 5K at first!).
 

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We will be fine :)
I agree -- my car is just over 1" lower now and the 225s only rub slightly. Stock sizes won't rub at all.

This is with my test springs and almost no negative camber! On Friday I should be able to clear completely (if I can eek out at least a couple degrees negative camber). I'm drilling out the stock struts. What can go wrong? ;)

Coilovers are better all around for clearance -- you can dial in the negative camber and you get more inboard clearance (note my slight rubbing is the outboard side).
 
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