Yeah with an injen intake it's super loud. Love it
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jimclark, I get a noise that matches your description above. My thought was that it's just the sound of the air getting sucked in through the intake when the turbo is under load.Unfortunately, that still leaves me with the sound(s) (primarily, at least, a single sound) I'm hearing, which seems to come from the same side of the engine bay, and is heard in the same RPM range (typically, though slightly variable, in 2-3K range) in all gears (best in lower gears, as there is lower ambient noise). It is variable in its intensity, at times being fairly easily discerned, at others difficult to make out. The sound reminds me of the sort of whistling sound that air can make rushing through a cracked-open window.
And I'm in the same boat, with regard to expertise--know just enough to get confused, it seems. I'd be more comfortable with it if it were actually more consistent, and had it not suddenly come up a couple weeks ago. That said, I'm just "watching" it at the moment, and should I think I can get by the dealer and have a good, knowledgeable technician take a listen when it's readily observable, I'll try again to do so. I can't help but wonder if there's a leak in the intake somewhere, but I can't find it.jimclark, I get a noise that matches your description above. My thought was that it's just the sound of the air getting sucked in through the intake when the turbo is under load.
I could be wrong however as I'm far from an expert on forced induction.
If you think there might be a leak, check all of the hose clamps and tighten them. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened to one of these cars.And I'm in the same boat, with regard to expertise--know just enough to get confused, it seems. I'd be more comfortable with it if it were actually more consistent, and had it not suddenly come up a couple weeks ago. That said, I'm just "watching" it at the moment, and should I think I can get by the dealer and have a good, knowledgeable technician take a listen when it's readily observable, I'll try again to do so. I can't help but wonder if there's a leak in the intake somewhere, but I can't find it.
There should be two separate and easily identifiable sounds, and it will be relatively easy to replicate. With all of your windows down, AC and radio off, roll into your throttle in second gear around 1500-2k rpm and pin it. There will be an audible and constant 'hiss' that you will primarily hear on the drivers side. That is your intake. Around 3k rpm, jump off the throttle and throw in the clutch. You should hear a 'psshh' sound very briefly, and it should appear to come from the passenger side. That is your bypass valve releasing the pressure and preserving your turbo's lifespan.And I'm in the same boat, with regard to expertise--know just enough to get confused, it seems. I'd be more comfortable with it if it were actually more consistent, and had it not suddenly come up a couple weeks ago. That said, I'm just "watching" it at the moment, and should I think I can get by the dealer and have a good, knowledgeable technician take a listen when it's readily observable, I'll try again to do so. I can't help but wonder if there's a leak in the intake somewhere, but I can't find it.
Thanks, Dyn085--I'm gonna have to do some careful listening and comparing of my observations to what you describe. At the moment, I'm not sure that what I'm hearing is what you describe, but I'm also not sure it isn't. [I know what I'm concerned about is not the bypass valve release--given the good descriptions before, and what proved to my correct understanding of what and when, I can now pick that up pretty easily, and it's certainly a different sound.] I very much appreciate your description and explanation of what sorts of things I can/should hear. Thank you.There should be two separate and easily identifiable sounds, and it will be relatively easy to replicate. With all of your windows down, AC and radio off, roll into your throttle in second gear around 1500-2k rpm and pin it. There will be an audible and constant 'hiss' that you will primarily hear on the drivers side. That is your intake. Around 3k rpm, jump off the throttle and throw in the clutch. You should hear a 'psshh' sound very briefly, and it should appear to come from the passenger side. That is your bypass valve releasing the pressure and preserving your turbo's lifespan.
It is all load dependent because you aren't always off-boost and you aren't always at max-boost-a lot of the time you will be somewhere in between. While driving normally on a flat road you may only hear it on acceleration, if at all. When on CC in a hilly area you will probably hear the intake as it's building boost while climbing hills. When racing people you'll hear the intake with the throttle pinned and the bypass when you lift and depress the clutch. The higher the intensity of work that the car is doing, the more audible the sounds will be and vice-versa.
To further quiet the engine to test, you can pull the sound-symposer tube and muffle it with some more foam. I did this for a permanent sound-change, but you can remove it after your testing if you prefer the sound as it comes from the factory. This will just help to quiet things down a little bit more so that you can hear what you're listening for.
Thanks for the suggestion. I already did this--no difference. Although there are a couple of clamps that are plenty hard to get to, so it's possible I didn't get 'em fully tightened. Assuming I did get 'em all tight, and assuming it is an intake-leak-sound, then it would mean the leak is somewhere else in the system that I can't see/find. Good news, I think, would be that if the techs at the dealer come around to hearing it and thinking that might be the issue, I'd think it would be fairy easy to check pressures, seeing if the relative vacuum in the intake is less than it should be, for instance.If you think there might be a leak, check all of the hose clamps and tighten them. It wouldn't be the first time that has happened to one of these cars.
Are you implying that there IS foam in the sound-symposer tube from the factory?To further quiet the engine to test, you can pull the sound-symposer tube and muffle it with some more foam.
There is, it's just super small. About an inch long and grey, with a hole through the length of it. Mine is at home in my garage, I'll take a pic of it when I get back if no one has posted one by then.Are you implying that there IS foam in the sound-symposer tube from the factory?
BTW, I made some adjustments and now I hear the bypass.
Dave
Does removing that foam change the noise you hear in the cabin, or did you mean you added more foam to muffle yours...?There is, it's just super small. About an inch long and grey, with a hole through the length of it. Mine is at home in my garage, I'll take a pic of it when I get back if no one has posted one by then.
I added foam to mine. I basically cut up a foam polishing bonnet, rolled it up, and jammed it there. It cut out the majority of the symposer noise. I didn't like that the symposer made noise all the time as opposed to my FoST which only opens up under certain rpm and throttle input.Does removing that foam change the noise you hear in the cabin, or did you mean you added more foam to muffle yours...?
Were you ever able to do this? I'm curios how it sounds removed.I'm going to go drive it with neither piece installed to see what it sounds like...
NoI can definitely hear my turbo spool and especially bypass when shifting. Some folks can't hear it. Can you? What is your setup if you can?