[timboslice]

In the Fiesta ST supplement it lists 2 equivalent oils: XO-5W20-QSP (US) and CXO-5W20-LSP12 (Canada).

When I first picked up my car, I also bought a case of oil and a few filters with the part numbers I found online. The dealer gave me XO-5W20-QSP Synthetic Blend Oil in red bottles.

Fast forward to earlier this week, I go to another Ford dealer (closer to work) to pick up some more oil and filters… They say they have no idea what “Synthetic Blend” is and gave me CXO-5W20-LSP12 Ford Premium Oil in black bottles. Anyways, after a brief argument at the parts counter, I left with the oil, satisfied that it was referenced in the manual but confused by the parts discrepancy.

I used the “Ford Premium” oil yesterday and I noticed that it appears to be a slightly darker colour (or it could have been the bottles). I assume they have both been certified by Ford for use in the FiST.

What oil are the other Canadians putting in their FiST? Has anyone else found Canadian dealers carrying US part numbers?

 

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Any chance you can post picture of the labels on the CXO-5W20-LSP12? I'm curious.

Did some quick research and can't find any specs on that oil but if it's in the owners manual then you're fine running it.

-Steve

 

[reddog99]

Well, you're saying that one is a semi-synthetic and the other is plain old dinosaur oil.
It's easy for me to tell you that I wouldn't run regular dino oil in a turbo car. The synthetic blend would be the minimum, with a full synthetic being preferred. Go for the best protection you can find. If the dealer doesn't have it, go elsewhere.

 

[timboslice]

Well, you're saying that one is a semi-synthetic and the other is plain old dinosaur oil.
It's easy for me to tell you that I wouldn't run regular dino oil in a turbo car. The synthetic blend would be the minimum, with a full synthetic being preferred. Go for the best protection you can find. If the dealer doesn't have it, go elsewhere.

No, I'm just confused by the branding as they are both listed in the manual as equivalent oils. It's more of a question than a concern. Also, no 5W20s are full dino oil. Technically, any 5W20 is a synthetic blend. All of them have some sort of petroleum base stock with a synthetic additive pack added in. This is true for most "synthetic" oils including Mobile 1. There are only a few "pure synthetic" oils out there (RP and some of the high end Motuls and Amsoils I think). I've wasted way too much of my life on BITOG...

Any chance you can post picture of the labels on the CXO-5W20-LSP12? I'm curious.

Did some quick research and can't find any specs on that oil but if it's in the owners manual then you're fine running it.

-Steve

I do also my service at my folk's place (it's on the way home from the office). I'll put up a pic when I go visit next week

 

[kelly_s]

I went in to the dealer to buy some oil and a filter and asked for the motorcraft synthetic blend that I read was recommended. They said there was no such thing and gave me mobil 1. I didn't feel like getting out my phone and showing him what I actually wanted and I didn't mind using the mobile 1 so I left.

 

[reddog99]

No, I'm just confused by the branding as they are both listed in the manual as equivalent oils. It's more of a question than a concern. Also, no 5W20s are full dino oil. Technically, any 5W20 is a synthetic blend. All of them have some sort of petroleum base stock with a synthetic additive pack added in. This is true for most "synthetic" oils including Mobile 1. There are only a few "pure synthetic" oils out there (RP and some of the high end Motuls and Amsoils I think). I've wasted way too much of my life on BITOG...

I do also my service at my folk's place (it's on the way home from the office). I'll put up a pic when I go visit next week

OK, I'm in error. The title "Ford Premium Oil" mislead me. Both those oil specs you specified are a “Synthetic Blend”, and Motorcraft doesn't sell a conventional 5W-20 oil. But there are plenty of conventional 5W-20 oils of other brands.

 

[reddog99]

I went in to the dealer to buy some oil and a filter and asked for the motorcraft synthetic blend that I read was recommended. They said there was no such thing and gave me mobil 1. I didn't feel like getting out my phone and showing him what I actually wanted and I didn't mind using the mobile 1 so I left.

If you have a Walmart anywhere nearby, be aware that they sell 5 qt. bottles of Mobil 1 for about $23. That's bound to be cheaper than a dealer. I think that they sell Motorcraft, too.

 

[kelly_s]

If you have a Walmart anywhere nearby, be aware that they sell 5 qt. bottles of Mobil 1 for about $23. That's bound to be cheaper than a dealer. I think that they sell Motorcraft, too.

Yeah I got ripped off and I knew it. Parts guy was being a dick and I was tired from work so didn't care. Won't be going back for seconds.

 

[Ca5p3r]

If you have a Walmart anywhere nearby, be aware that they sell 5 qt. bottles of Mobil 1 for about $23. That's bound to be cheaper than a dealer. I think that they sell Motorcraft, too.

Walmart does sell the motorcraft 5w-20 synthetic blend oil in both the 1 quart and 5 quart bottles.

 

[timboslice]

Any chance you can post picture of the labels on the CXO-5W20-LSP12? I'm curious.

Here is the front label and the back label with the part number. Notice that it says “Ford Motor Company of Canada” not “Ford Motor Company”. After some research, I believe it’s a private label product manufactured by ConocoPhillips and Petro Canada designed to meet Ford Canada and Ford Motor Company’s spec.

. But there are plenty of conventional 5W-20 oils of other brands.

That’s actually incorrect. No 5W20 can have the correct VI and proper weight to be completely composed of a petroleum derivative without the addition of a synthetic additive package. This makes the branding of oils is really interesting as there are no “dino” 5W20s. Regardless of branding, all 5W20s contain a synthetic component (5%-50% typically). Adding to the mystique, there are almost no “pure” synthetics anymore. M1 is actually made from petroleum base stock. That’s why a lot of oil snobs are not fans of M1 anymore. That being said, I will still make the switch to M1 after 10-15k. It’s still a solid product and Wal-Mart always has it cheap!

Again, I invite everyone to go down the rabbit hole at http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=cfrm

 

[Applejack]

Bobistheoilguy.... What a rabbit hole indeed!