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If anyone hasn't read GRM, it focuses on the racing aspects of new and used cars. If you are interested in the performance and racing potential of a car, its a good magazine to read. They also have a Fiesta B-spec project car.

Any way, they had a review of the Fiesta ST backed up by a short summary and comparison to the Focus ST.

I flipped through it and will read it later but I'm sure the review will be fair and a good read.

I was surprised to see it actually, I went to the book store to buy the R&T magazine where the ST came in third place behind the AMG SLS Black and C7 Corvette and picked up GRM only to find Fiesta ST content.
 

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I'm happy that the Fiesta was preferred to the cayman, R8, GT-R etc. in the R&T review. People who have no clue respond with "You're getting a what?" A Fiesta?" when I tell them and I only have to point to this comparison and the Top Gear Top Performance car list to shut them up. Thanks for sharing.
 

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Yeah I had a lot of people ask me why I "wasted the money" when I could have gotten another faster used car for the price. They thought I should get another evo. I wanted the funnest FWD experience. Period. Well ford nailed it. It is THE funnest FWD platform I've ever driven, and I've drove/raced ALOT of them. Sure there are faster, but the FiST is near perfection for how it makes you feel. Most drivers don't get that idea of driving something fun. They just want the coolest looking car, or the fastest car they can buy. Well to them I smile and laugh, because I know they aren't having as good as a time I am!


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I'm happy that the Fiesta was preferred to the cayman, R8, GT-R etc. in the R&T review. People who have no clue respond with "You're getting a what?" A Fiesta?" when I tell them and I only have to point to this comparison and the Top Gear Top Performance car list to shut them up. Thanks for sharing.
Yup. Lots of clueless people out there. When I linked the R&T article to my facebook no one could believe it. It's not all HP and lap times. Theres way more to it to make a great car. And Ford nailed with the FiST.
 

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Yup. Lots of clueless people out there. When I linked the R&T article to my facebook no one could believe it. It's not all HP and lap times. Theres way more to it to make a great car. And Ford nailed with the FiST.
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You can always tell the kiddos that only read the performance numbers and will tell you that the Fiesta ST needs more power, it is too expensive, it isn't fast enough, it needs AWD, blah, blah, blah. None of them have actually driven the car, nor do they understand what makes a great car. It is all about the right amount of power, the right gear ratios, the right weight, the perfect brakes, the handling, the looks, and the interaction between driver and car. The Fiesta ST has all the things in the right doses. As I have been saying for months, the engineers on the Fiesta ST program nailed it!
 

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You shouldn't really have to "convince" someone why purchasing the ST was better than X, Y or Z car. Just tell them why you LIKE it (without mentioning any mag comparisons), then leave it at that. If they really are car enthusiasts, they wouldn't judge a car simply by mag comparos. It's all about experience.

My brother also did the "why'd you buy a fiesta?" bit when I got my ST, but it was more because he hadn't heard of it, and I moved from a WRX (one of his much preferred cars) to it. I let him drive the car around and he was pretty much sold. He had the "wow" expression from the moment he shifted into first gear.
 

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Its pretty simple, light car + powerful engine + nice suspension = a fun car.

The ST is FWD which turns off a lot of sports car purists but its just the way of the world now, light economy cars are all going to be FWD so manufacturers using that formula are going to be making cars like the Fiesta ST or else they are going to be making expensive cars.

After driving one on the street and in an autocross, the handling is so nice that I don't care which end puts down the power.

I don't think more power would take anything away from the Fiesta ST, if you properly tuned the power delivery it should just make it pull better from a roll. Torque steer might become noticeable but there might be a way to fix that too.
 
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