Just got my ST yesterday! Couple things I noticed that I don't like (so far)

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mcummings182

Discussion Starter · Oct 1, 2013

After thinking I wouldn't be able to get an ST, I actually got one yesterday and it's the exact one I wanted! There's only a couple things that I have noticed that could have been a little better (so far lol)

The trunk is way smaller than my 2011 hatchback. For some reason, the piece you pull up to get to the spare tire is way too high up. I think it's really unnecessary. It's hard to explain what I'm talking about unless you see the 2 in comparison in person. My hatchback had 2 12 inch subs, I don't think you can even fit any in the ST because the height is so different.

The other thing is I don't like how the my ford touch is set up. I hate how it has the screen split into 4 sections, it just looks stupid. I looked at the display options and I don't think there is any way you can change it (does anyone know if you can?) At least you can put any picture as your wallpaper (as long as it's 800 x 350 or something like that)

My girlfriend has a Chevy Cruze, and I like the MyLink setup way better than My Touch. Here are some pics of how I wish My Touch looked.

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BRGT350

· #4 · Oct 2, 2013

the floor level drops down to about the same place it is on your 2011. I moved the dual-height-floor-wtf to the lowest level shorter after getting the ST and find that it is much better. I still lose things under the rear seats, so I will have to figure out something better. A good option would be to buy the rear cargo floor out of a 2011-13 Fiesta that a rally team is gutting for competition.

MFT, well, it is what it is. It takes time to get used to the system.

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BRGT350

· #6 · Oct 2, 2013

Lift the floor up and out of the car, then slide it under the trim that is on the sides near the rear seat backs. After that, push the edge of the floor nearest the bumper towards the sheetmetal floor of the trunk. Move it back and forth a few times to get it to settle into place. Once that is done, the floor will sit on the top of the spare tire, which is pretty much the same height as the 2011-13 cars. It is easy to change from the low level to the high level, in case you wanted the floor the same height as the rear seats when they are folded down.

Don't get too upset of MFT, it just takes time to get used to it. My wife hated it in her Escape, hating it to the point of wanting to return it. After a few updates and getting used to the system, she is now ok with it. We need to do the latest update, which fixes a huge number of issues on the Escape. My brother got MFT in the ST updated at SVT last week and we have both noticed improvements.

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BRGT350

· #8 · Oct 2, 2013

If you have to press the corner text to activate the screen, then it sounds like you have the older version. There is a way to access the version and crosscheck it with www.syncmyride.com. If you log into the site and enter your VIN, it should tell you if the system is the latest. The dealer can also tell you.

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BRGT350

· #11 · Oct 2, 2013

The update came out last month. The dealer that services the ST for the Fiesta Movement had no record of there being an update for the car, so my brother had it done at SVT. We can't use the VIN for the website since it isn't a production car.

Stevelach brings up a good point, the help screen shows up using a voice command on the new update and not the old one. Also when listening to SiriusXM when the home screen is active, the song title shows up above the presets.

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BRGT350

· #13 · Oct 2, 2013

not sure what size spare, but I am sure it is the exact same one as production. The floor might not be as low as the 2011-13 cars, but way lower than the upper height. The floor gets hung up on the trim and it took some wiggling to get it to sit right. I had pictures showing the floor in the up, down, and compared to the 2011, but I don't know where I put them.

The funnel under the spare is not the best. I suggest moving it to the top of the spare. Of course, with 4 years of driving capless fuel cars, I have only used the funnel twice.

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BRGT350

· #16 · Oct 3, 2013

rweidman said:
It is a function of the full size spare. The floor for the trunk is of the right area to cover the spare and seal up around the sides. Unless you take the spare out the floor really cannot be lowered with out taking out the spare.

Yep, as Stevelach said, it can be lowered without taking out the spare. I lowered mine hours after picking it up and only moved it to the higher position to do a video about how it works.

Fiesta ST Aircraft Carrier #fiestamovement by Bryan Redeker BRGT350, on Flickr

This isn't the best picture, but I knew I could find it quickly. This is with the floor lowered about 5-6" from the upper position. The spare tire is in place and no modifications were made.

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BRGT350

· #23 · Oct 4, 2013

Sil3nt611 said:
Do you find yourself using something other than gas stations to fill up your car often? I've been driving for over 7 years with 2 different cars and I can't say I've ever needed to fill up the car any other way than to use the gas station nozzle. I keep an eye on the fuel gauge as to not run out of gas on the road. Only thing I can think of that you would need the funnel for regularly enough that it's a big deal they put the funnel under the spare is if you put in additives to the gas, though I'm not real sure why on that either.

The funnel is needed for some gas pumps that have a non-standard nozzle. The twin trap doors in the capless filler require the correct size fuel nozzel to open the doors and allow the fuel tank to be accessed. I have found 2 stations in 4 years that had nozzles that would not allow the secondary trap door to open. The funnel in the trunk is designed to activate the doors in the filler neck. In both cases, the gas stations were way out in the middle of nowhere. Also, if you need to add fuel system cleaner or any additives, you will need the funnel to open the trap doors. A typical funnel isn't sized properly to open the doors. It is odd that during original Fiesta Movement training, the capless fuel system was a major talking point and we had to demonstrate that we could use the funnel to trigger the doors. In the second round of the program, it was never mentioned. If it wasn't for the original training, I would have never known any of this about the capless fuel system. After buying 2 cars with the system, nobody at the dealer ever talked about why the funnel is there or needed.

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BRGT350

· #29 · Oct 4, 2013

Sil3nt611 said:
I didn't even know some gas station nozzes were different... When I get my car I'll make sure not to fill up in the middle of nowhere. I know salesman don't ever go over every feature of the car with you, and a lot of the time they either don't know the feature is there or it's not a big deal to them so they don't say anything about it I guess... I've been on several Fiesta test drives and never head a thing about the capless system either. When I went on my ST test drive I told the salesman about the dual height floor and he'd never heard of it. Of course being so difficult to actually get it in the lower position it almost seems as it Ford didn't really specifically design it to be a dual height floor...and I gave up trying to wiggle it in there after awhile. That being said I probably knew a good portion more about the ST by the time I took the test drive than any salesman will ever know.

It a very rare find to get a gas nozzle that won't fit. I think both times were on old pumps and not your typical big-name gas stations. I have never had an issue with those. Chances are very good that you won't need the funnel for refueling. Adding a fuel cleaner would be more realistic.

I was at a dealership yesterday getting new tires put on the ST and nobody in the shop knew what the car was or that they are available. I knew vastly more about the car than anyone I talked to at the dealership. I have had my white Fiesta mistaken for a ST at dealerships.

In some regards, the dual floor thing wasn't supposed to be a dual floor. The regular Fiesta with smaller spare tire has a foam organizer under the floor. Since the foam thing won't fit on the ST, you get open space between the chassis floor and hatch floor. You could take the foam out of the regular Fiesta and lower the floor just the same as the ST, except it would fit better due to the smaller spare tire size. I have thought about getting black automotive carpet and adding velcro that would cover the spot that is open with the floor in the top or bottom position. I am sure I can come up with something that will work.

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BRGT350

· #33 · Oct 6, 2013

reddog99 said:
OK, today I removed the spare tire and measured the depth of the spare tire well, and the width of the tire;

The wheel well (at the front area) is approx. 6 1/2 " deep (it's closer to 8" deep at the rear).
The 185/60R15 spare tire is nearly 8" wide at it's widest point. In addition, the tire wedges itself against the left & right sides of the well, so it can't fit all the way down. There's maybe a 3/8" gap under the tire.

So that explains why our load floor cannot lay flat. The car that BRGT350 drives must have either a smaller spare tire or a deeper storage well. The rest of us will need to either get a smaller tire, or to get out a sledge hammer and do some sheet metal re-forming. :happy:

I have the same spare tire and the same chassis stamping, so that isn't a correct theory.

ST spare tire comparison by Bryan Redeker BRGT350, on Flickr

ST spare tire comparison by Bryan Redeker BRGT350, on Flickr

Floor placement on my 2011 Fiesta

ST spare tire comparison by Bryan Redeker BRGT350, on Flickr

ST spare tire comparison by Bryan Redeker BRGT350, on Flickr

As you can see, the floor in the lower position is about the same as it is on the 2011-13 cars, as I had said earlier. It may be about .50" or so higher in the ST from the wider spare tire.

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