2.57 is plenty respectable, big lift for the Kink there although I can't blame you for that. It's a scary place.
-Steve
-Steve
It will be Fall there this weekend with temps in the 50's/60's during the day and in the 40's overnight. Will I see you possibly on Friday at RA?I should also mention that I've been going to Road America with my father for about 30 years now...
This is his car(my son riding shotgun), we're headed to R/A again this weekend with it for the Fall Festival.
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@SLSHilltoppers: Carlos Gomez #12 scores, his second goal of the game, to make the game 5-1 Hilltoppers #SLSsoccer
-Steve
You're welcome to come look for us, We're usually in the grass paddock area on top of the hill on the left between the Gearbox and the gas pumps. Look for the Healey above or my silver SVT. I'm easy to spot, 6'6" and 225 lbs.It will be Fall there this weekend with temps in the 50's/60's during the day and in the 40's overnight. Will I see you possibly on Friday at RA?
If I'm able to get away, I'll track you down for sure. Thanks for the invite.
I've been on the road and just getting caught up on this thread...I agree about electronic nannies, no real place on track for them in cars like these but I don't think it's down to that alone.
You seem to have skipped my point about the SVT Focus, some had a rudimentary traction control system that worked on the front only and all had four wheel ABS but pretty much across the board these cars would go through rear brakes much quicker than they did fronts and it had nothing to do with electronics.
My guess is that because they used a fairly large rear rotor in combination with a pad that has a relatively small contact patch this caused the rear brakes to wear more quickly than the fronts. The 300mm front and 280mm rear brakes on the SVT Focus are incredibly effective but I believe the rear pads are undersized in the grand scheme of things.
If the Fiesta ST is a similar setup then taking one to a track like Road America where you have to brake heavily from a very high speed several times a lap is most certainly going to burn up those pads much faster.
Turn 1 and then 5 and 12 in particular absolutely devour brake pads.
-Steve
which leads me to believe the Fiesta/ Focii ST's utilized in Fords Octane Academy, had the pads replaced with a differing compound, those cars were absolutely HAMMERED, day inday out with ZERO issues.....and for one hell of a lot more than one lap......I've been on the road and just getting caught up on this thread...
I didn't skip your point at all -- maybe I initially misunderstood it. You really mean the older "SVT Focus" here, right? I don't know that car, but know it had some interesting features. By comparison, it was more of a factory tuner car than the current FoST/FiST we have today (accounting for some less-than-optimally engineered systems). For the purpose of this discussion, I'm sticking to cars I know. The current gen Focus ST has the problem we have, only worse (as it relates to rear pad wear and overall brake performance). I've heard it said that the Focus ST is a "fast one lap car..." and that seems to be a moto pundit consensus. The TVC simply cooks the rear pads, and eventually the entire system. It's one of only a few cars that have ever completely melted down in MT's track testing under the very capable hands of Randy Pobst -- his first).
Anyhow, like most of us, I have a lot of varied car experience (call it 20+ performance cars, 30+ total) . I personally have never had a car wear its rear pads more than the front. Yes, doing so really would suggest unconventional compounds or sizing. The real point that I'm making is that for OUR FiST, I strongly believe TVC is the cause (just as I do with the FoST). Moreover, I personally have lots of track experience with the FiST. My car burns STOCK front brake pads at about 2x fast the rears. Now that I'm exclusively running Porterfield R4 (race), it's too early to say. Preliminarily, it feels about the same.
Said plainly, I think TVC caused this problem for RodMoe. Different tracks can invoke more or less TVC control (a point not lost on me). Using more TVC, for any reason, means more rear brake use.
I'm making assumptions and drawing independent conclusions like anyone else here, but I'm doing it based on my own first-hand experiences. I'm killing my TVC system (but hopefully not ABS!). To say it again, TVC is pretty darned cool on stock or near-stock cars for the street. My particular car, with its particular mods no longer likes it. I love race-based stability systems. A good friend owns a national Time Attack record with a monster 350Z. He's fast, but freaking rocks with that racing stability program. It's almost necessary to harness his ~1000HP or so.
Edit: TVC comment for clarity.
Right on, I'm right there with you.I'm learning about the new cars all the time, wasn't really aware of how the TVC functioned on these cars, I just knew from experience how hard R/A is on brakes.
Never stop learning.
-Steve
So...in cruising your FRPP parts list, I just saw this beauty:Odds are there's a way to shut it off but you can be pretty sure Ford won't tell anyone how.
-Steve
Better late...It appears that is the solution, I have actually seen that before but never read the description :headbang:
$247.50 plus shipping.
-Steve