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There is a definite point with the car where the turbo kicks in. Around 3000rpm, as they say. But it's predictable and easy to drop the car into the middle of its power band when necessary.
 

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hmmmm this is the first I have heard of this still 1500 rpm sooner than my current driver lol
 

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I feel and can HEAR the turbo as low as 2k... I don't think it suffers that bad to lag either.

But I do enjoy that they admitted it was the drivers car. Hence, why I waited.


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Agree that the claim of "turbo lag" is specious...have owned several performance cars and motorcycles over the years and this is the first with a turbo so I'd definitely notice if the throttle response was slow, however the throttle response and powerband are excellent and at least as good as any other engine I've experienced.
 

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I've driven a 1989 Ford Probe Turbo, I know what lag is and the author of that review is wrong.

The thing spools pretty much instantly but its a 1.6, its never going to have big block V-8 torque just off idle. What you get is plenty by 2,000-2,500 rpm and you would have to be some kind of hypermiling idiot to operate at rpms much below that.

I can only imagine that the author is used to powerful cars with automatic transmissions tuned to kick down at the slightest hint of throttle depression.

The Fiesta ST takes a little more effort than just a stab of the pedal, especially if you're doing something dumb like driving in 6'th at 35 mph. Luckily I'm one of those odd people who enjoys shifting for myself.
 

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I've driven a 1989 Ford Probe Turbo, I know what lag is and the author of that review is wrong.

The thing spools pretty much instantly but its a 1.6, its never going to have big block V-8 torque just off idle. What you get is plenty by 2,000-2,500 rpm and you would have to be some kind of hypermiling idiot to operate at rpms much below that.

I can only imagine that the author is used to powerful cars with automatic transmissions tuned to kick down at the slightest hint of throttle depression.

The Fiesta ST takes a little more effort than just a stab of the pedal, especially if you're doing something dumb like driving in 6'th at 35 mph. Luckily I'm one of those odd people who enjoys shifting for myself.


very well said! Anyone saying the ST suffers from turbo lag is an idiot and needs to go back and drive a mid-80's SVO, T-Bird Turbo Coupe, RX7, or Probe to see what lag really is. Lately I have given up on reading Car & Driver, Motor Trend, and just about any mainstream car mag. I rarely agree with anything they say. If Grassroots Motorsports reviews a compact, I generally agree with everything said. Ron's review of the ST is spot-on and shows that the car really fits the sport compact buyer/enthusiast. Autoblog has nailed a few reviews for compact cars, but their writers tend to be younger, have a pulse, and actually like cars.
 

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I completely agree with both of you! I didn't think my evo had that bad of lag compared to other cars I had driven with evos, but my evo feels horribly leggy ever since I bought my FiST!


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That's what I was looking for real feedback from real drivers that have some seat time !! thanks now I can exhale :thumbsup:
 

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I have not read it yet, but there was a Consumer's Report article that bashed the ST over the lack of cargo room and MPG. Umm, if I wanted a hybrid or a cargo van, I would have bought one. Clearly the author had no clue why somebody would buy a smaller car that gets less than 40 MPG. I doubt the author of the article knows the joy that comes from hurling a Fiesta ST around a racetrack. I pity a life in which no such joy exists.
 

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CR seems to have a compulsion to make idiotic comments. They complain because a truck handles like a truck, and complain that a subcompact doesn't have a big trunk, or that it's small inside. You can't help but scratch your head and wonder what in the world are they doing reviewing automobiles? They should stick to refrigerators and coffee makers...
 

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CR seems to have a compulsion to make idiotic comments. They complain because a truck handles like a truck, and complain that a subcompact doesn't have a big trunk, or that it's small inside. You can't help but scratch your head and wonder what in the world are these doing reviewing automobiles? They should stick to refrigerators and coffee makers...
I think Consumer Reports tends to just point out the pros and cons without taking the context into account. That's left to the reader.
 

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CR seems to have a compulsion to make idiotic comments. They complain because a truck handles like a truck, and complain that a subcompact doesn't have a big trunk, or that it's small inside. You can't help but scratch your head and wonder what in the world are these doing reviewing automobiles? They should stick to refrigerators and coffee makers...
Nah, they'd complain the fridge was too cold or the coffee got too hot. I stopped reading CR years ago.
 

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I treat all reviews as though they are someone's opinion, and take them with a grain of salt. I read every magazine I can get, they are entertainment. I was, however, influenced by Jeremy Clarkson's Fiesta review...
 
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