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And I noticed that it had red brake calipers. I had understood that to be an option. No mention of it was made on the window sticker. So, it must be standard now. I sat down with the salesman and ordered it in Dark blue metallic (can't recall the promotional paint name) with just the storm grey Recaro seat option and nothing else. It looks great! I was surprised to see painted calipers.I am not into paying money for a non functional option. The 16 Fiesta ST looks rich and sophisticated in dark blue with grey leather.
 

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And I noticed that it had red brake calipers. I had understood that to be an option. No mention of it was made on the window sticker. So, it must be standard now. I sat down with the salesman and ordered it in Dark blue metallic (can't recall the promotional paint name) with just the storm grey Recaro seat option and nothing else. It looks great! I was surprised to see painted calipers.I am not into paying money for a non functional option. The 16 Fiesta ST looks rich and sophisticated in dark blue with grey leather.
The black wheels are supposed to come with the red calipers according to the Ford build site, however it's switched at the moment. My '16 molten orange with grey wheels also came with the red calipers while all the black wheels are shipping with unpainted calipers. Honestly I would have preferred the unpainted calipers but I didn't have to pay for it so I don't care.

The blue is called Kona blue I believe. I haven't seen it in person but it looks nice. Ver similar to the Twilight blue on my ZX2. It's nice in the sun when it's clean, however it stays clean for about 12 hours. :p
 

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Kona! I should have recall on that but I am distracted by work thoughts. My other issue with painted calipers is now we have to pay the upcharge for red when one fails out of warranty. I am not accustomed to being concerned with component colors, only if it is functioning or not. I am not a cheapskate, I just prefer to spend money where it has an effect. Three hundred bucks for red calipers? No thanks. Fifteen hundred for super light, kickazz wheels? Where do I sign?
 

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Yeah, I was ready to order my '16 with the silver wheels to save money even though I preferred the grey wheels (but it wasn't worth the $400 they were asking for the same wheel with a different paint color and painted calipers), but then I figured out they came standard with grey wheels now so it saved me money and I got what I wanted. As for the calipers, they won't likely be something that will fail real quick. My 13 year old Escort ZX2 is still using it's original calipers. So it's not something I'd be immediately worried about. Worse comes to worse I'll just paint my replacement caliper to match before installing it.
 

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Yeah, I was ready to order my '16 with the silver wheels to save money even though I preferred the grey wheels (but it wasn't worth the $400 they were asking for the same wheel with a different paint color and painted calipers), but then I figured out they came standard with grey wheels now so it saved me money and I got what I wanted. As for the calipers, they won't likely be something that will fail real quick. My 13 year old Escort ZX2 is still using it's original calipers. So it's not something I'd be immediately worried about. Worse comes to worse I'll just paint my replacement caliper to match before installing it.
I also have a zx2! Its 2k S/R. The brakes were just so durable and inexpensive to service!! No nannies creating heat. Only did an intensive rebuild because of age and miles. Its still so trackable and fun. A quaife in the Fist should relieve a lot of the TV front heat fatique issues. I think this fist with be just about the last new fwd ford a guy can buy inexpensively, do some light preparation and then track it. The future looks like big brother is going to be riding shotgun all the time. My 2011 fiesta SE hatch had such intrusive stability controls! It sucked all the joy out of driving a slow car fast.
 

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Kona! I should have recall on that but I am distracted by work thoughts. My other issue with painted rotors is now we have to pay the upcharge for red when one fails out of warranty. I am not accustomed to being concerned with component colors, only if it is functioning or not. I am not a cheapskate, I just prefer to spend money where it has an effect. Three hundred bucks for red calipers? No thanks. Fifteen hundred for super light, kickazz wheels? Where do I sign?
The calipers on "the red thing" (pictured) are 50 years old and have yet to fail or need work other than pads. Don't sweat the upcharge for repair.
 

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I also have a zx2! Its 2k S/R. The brakes were just so durable and inexpensive to service!! No nannies creating heat. Only did an intensive rebuild because of age and miles. Its still so trackable and fun. A quaife in the Fist should relieve a lot of the TV front heat fatique issues. I think this fist with be just about the last new fwd ford a guy can buy inexpensively, do some light preparation and then track it. The future looks like big brother is going to be riding shotgun all the time. My 2011 fiesta SE hatch had such intrusive stability controls! It sucked all the joy out of driving a slow car fast.
Nice, I have several S/R parts on my '03 ZX2. '99 S/R NGP0 ECM, 2k S/R seat skins, Iceman intake, and shift knob. The ZX2 was fun, but I'm glad I've moved on to the Fiesta ST.
 

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The calipers on "the red thing" (pictured) are 50 years old and have yet to fail or need work other than pads. Don't sweat the upcharge for repair.
I hear ya regarding light, old sport cars being easy on brakes! My dad was heavily into Triumph spitfires, TR6, MGB and also had a Fiat X19. I loved how they handled but I had Mustang GT on the brain as a teenager. The old Stang's were very reliable compared to the ongoing projects that the British and Italian iron were.
 

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Nice, I have several S/R parts on my '03 ZX2. '99 S/R NGP0 ECM, 2k S/R seat skins, Iceman intake, and shift knob. The ZX2 was fun, but I'm glad I've moved on to the Fiesta ST.
Sweet! But i am not ready to dump my ZX2 S/R, This 16 FIST will be an addition to my choices, not a replacement. The FIST will be the last new car i purchase for the next ten years. My shop space is filled up. Its time for a bigger batcave.
 

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Sweet! But i am not ready to dump my ZX2 S/R, This 16 FIST will be an addition to my choices, not a replacement. The FIST will be the last new car i purchase for the next ten years. My shop space is filled up. Its time for a bigger batcave.
I only need one car and choosing between a bolt on modified 13 year old car vs a factory performance turbo new car I don't see myself driving the ZX2 anymore. It does have sentimental value because I spent a lot of time working on it, but I haven't missed driving it much this past week since I got the ST.
 

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"Newness" wears off. I think the ZX2 S/R was a far nicer package than the Focus SVT, given the few upgrades it needed and its very low maintenance costs vs the Focus 3 grand getrag gearbox and pricey HID headlamps. I think the Fiesta ST will fall almost smack in between the earlier two! I was involved in road racing the ZX2 in SCCA with a good late friend, back when it was new. I have an emotional connection to ZX2.
 

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I don't blame you for wanting to hold onto it. I know there were only 2,100 or so S/Rs made total so it's pretty uncommon and the ZX2 is still awesome in it's own way. But for me my Fiesta is quicker, handles much better, has better seats, is newer, and isn't as likely to break down on me like the ZX2 has been doing lately.

Here's my '03 next to the Fiesta.

 

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My guess is that the factory work order for the gray wheel option that became standard in '16 called for the red calipers and was never changed from the '15 option work order. When the new for '16 black wheel option was made, they didn't add the red calipers to the promotional materials or the work order.
 

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I don't blame you for wanting to hold onto it. I know there were only 2,100 or so S/Rs made total so it's pretty uncommon and the ZX2 is still awesome in it's own way. But for me my Fiesta is quicker, handles much better, has better seats, is newer, and isn't as likely to break down on me like the ZX2 has been doing lately.

Here's my '03 next to the Fiesta.

Nice duce! I had to store mine away from road salt and winters to keep it cherry. You TX guys just need to park it in the shade to preserve em'.
 

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My guess is that the factory work order for the gray wheel option that became standard in '16 called for the red calipers and was never changed from the '15 option work order. When the new for '16 black wheel option was made, they didn't add the red calipers to the promotional materials or the work order.
Sounds like some dealers will be cutting consolation checks. I guess its less upsetting than getting a unwanted interior accent color or finding a huge ass front L plate bracket that you didnt request rivited to the front facia.
 

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I wish I had a garage to store my ST. But at least I've got an assigned spot under the carport. Unfortunately I'm at work during the worst part of the day for sun damage to the paint and it's uncovered. My ZX2 paint is in reasonable shape for being parked uncovered for most of it's life and I didn't really learn how to correctly wash a car until more recently. I don't envy your road salts. Seen what it does to cars that drive in the winters up North. When we do get snow we just stay home that day. :p
 

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A carport would be nice. Mine lives outside, year round. Collinite 476S.
 

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A carport would be nice. Mine lives outside, year round. Collinite 476S.
A well organised shop and storage area is critical once you get past the fourth car. The costs of owning a freaking fleet of rides makes mechanical, off season storage and even paint and bodywork so costly that a multi car owner has to learn how to do their own repairs and upkeep. The coolest thing about going big is that the cost of owning ten cars is not as expensive as the first four! That cost does not include the divorce or child support. This is a single mans hobby. Or a Tony Stark type. He could probably pull off two kids, a wife and twelve cars. I am not Tony Stark.
 
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