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Observations from Frankenfiesta's First Track day

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Location: Portland International Raceway, Portland, OR
Weather Conditions: Cool, partial cloudy, dry (high was about 63 to 65 I'd guess)
Club: Alfa Romeo of Oregon
Event: Spring Lapping Day
Date: 3/28/15

Some 11 months after taking possession, I finally got my Fiesta ST out for its first track day last Saturday and had a great time. This car is just fun to drive. My setup is not entirely stock, but it is not extreme.

Main points of modification:
  • MP215, mountune high flow induction hose, mountune FMIC, mountune quick shifter
  • Quaife LSD
  • BC Racing BR Type coilovers (6K/4K springs; set to 10 clicks under full stiff), camber bolts
  • Stock calipers and rotors; StopTech brake lines, Torque RT700 fluid, Carbotech XP8 pads
  • Nitto NT01 tires in 205/50-15 on Team Dynamics Pro Race 1.2 wheels in 15x7
  • 16 ounces of Torco per about 10 gallons of gas (shooting for rough 94 octane equivalence)
  • Water/water wetter and Mobil 1 5W30 oil

Car handled almost like a go cart, although I could not really go all out in the curves (not enough rubber, minmial negative camber, top heavy, etc.). Nonetheless, it was easy to drive given this was a shakedown event for me in the car. I dialed back a little in the ABS braking zones (broke a little early and progressively), but as a result the brakes really held up. Here are a couple of photos of the pads after the event was over (3 15-minute morning sessions and 3 20-minute afternoon sessions).

Passenger side front:



Driver side front:



Hardly even looks like I used them, although we probably need to get them off to really see. I experienced zero fade (on an admittedly perfect -- cool -- day) and when I needed more brake when standing on them later (usually pursuing another lapper), response was perfect. RT700 worked like a charm. I got into the ABS a few times at the bottom of the main straight as expected when closing on and getting set to pass a slower driver. PIR is mostly easy on brakes if you are not late braking like that. Carbotechs are a little more progressive upon initial stop request, but their ultimate stopping power is very good.

The BC Racing coilovers did great -- set at what was really not that stiff of a setting (10 short of full stiff). The Quaife LSD performed flawlessly as far as I could tell. Only truly called upon LSD when exiting the chicane, and the little car pulled like a champ out of that slow sequence with virtually zero wheel spin. I never drove this car at the track with the open diff, so can't really compare. I did drive my prior FWD car with the open diff at the track, and the difference was noticeable once the Quaife went into that car.

The NT01s performed as expected, holding lines and letting me build speed from lap to lap. These tires do not squeal, but they do break very progressively when asked to slip a little (in my case when aggressively exiting the PIR chicane).

I am not a super aggressive driver in general, so I did not really test the limits of this car, the tires, or the brakes. Within the context of my minimally enhanced car and my recreational approach, this setup worked great and I had a ton of fun. YMMV.

A couple photos taken by Charles White Photography at the event:







And, if you made it this far, I have some paddock pics hosted at my google+ account.
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Ah. I'm not really keen on the new Focus RS. I have a 2004 Audi S4 Avant. To me, that RS is starting to get the pudge of an Audi. I love the hell out of my wagon (although my wife is driving it now), but it handles more like a steam engine on rails than a sports car. I suspect the Focus RS is going to tilt that way too. I'd have more affinity for an AWD Fiesta RS, but that's never going to happen. The platform is just to small to justify AWD to me. And a FWD Fiesta RS? Meh. I already have an LSD and coilovers. I can also get this tuned up to be about whatever I want it to be ( :cough: EFR :cough: Randy Robles), but am happy with it as is.
The RS has got to be at least 200lbs lighter than the Evo. And I'm sure Mountune will have some goodies within a short amount of time.
I've owned and tracked 2 mustang GT's, a Cobra, a G35, 04 NSX w/ supercharger and full suspension, 2 Evos - double clutch and manual, and the ST.
I've gone heavy, light, mid-engine, fast, slow, FWD, AWD and RWD and I must say I enjoy the point and shoot driving style the most. I know it doesn't require a lot of skill but I love the feel of a four wheel drift and reeling it back in!
I do love the Fist, especially with the current setup, and I'll be sad to see it go. If they do decide to build a Fiesta RS I will definitely go that route.
The Focus RS is set to pull more than a G stock with the cup tires. Just sayin...
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Hah. I've got a few years on you brother and I think this is my last toy car before I seriously focus on gardening, hiking, BBQ, and travel. I've only ever tracked the SVT Focus and now this, so they're my only real benchmarks. I had a 1965 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT back in the day (handed down from my dad in 1974). That was a fun car. I should have taken care of that thing, sigh. I had several other sporty cars (280Z, original MR2), but I did not get into track events until my late 40s. It's an expensive habit and I have zero mechanical skills, so everything costs me. I am happy with this and figure that it'll last me till I'm done with the hobby. An AWD Fiesta RS would be very tempting though.
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An original MR2 would be a riot!
It was prone to snap oversteer. I discovered this when driving home to San Jose from Boulder Creek on Bear Creek Road (sometime around 1985ish). I was going a little faster than I should on a slightly downhill, decreasing radius turn (going clockwise). I was on the inside of the turn. There was a slight ditch to my right, and the other side of the road was down the mount side. The rear end started to just let loose as I turned in, a little off throttle. So long ago. I'm not sure if I touched the brakes as I was turning, but it started coming around. It was pretty low speed. Rather than try to save it with throttle (that cliff scared the @#%% out of me). I kind of road it out, off throttle, steering into it as best I could (while not trying to drive through). The car nosed comparatively gently into the little ditch and I just backed out. Jumped out of the car, pulled the mangled lower valance into a drivable state, and snuck home. No real other damage, no leaks, etc. Just a some bent sheet metal. But I learned that the car was a bit tail happy. My Fiesta is so much easier to drive. It lets me have some fun, play with trail braking and throttle lift turn-in without making my heart race. I like.
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It was prone to snap oversteer. I discovered this when driving home to San Jose from Boulder Creek on Bear Creek Road (sometime around 1985ish). I was going a little faster than I should on a slightly downhill, decreasing radius turn (going clockwise). I was on the inside of the turn. There was a slight ditch to my right, and the other side of the road was down the mount side. The rear end started to just let loose as I turned in, a little off throttle. So long ago. I'm not sure if I touched the brakes as I was turning, but it started coming around. It was pretty low speed. Rather than try to save it with throttle (that cliff scared the @#%% out of me). I kind of road it out, off throttle, steering into it as best I could (while not trying to drive through). The car nosed comparatively gently into the little ditch and I just backed out. Jumped out of the car, pulled the mangled lower valance into a drivable state, and snuck home. No real other damage, no leaks, etc. Just a some bent sheet metal. But I learned that the car was a bit tail happy. My Fiesta is so much easier to drive. It lets me have some fun, play with trail braking and throttle lift turn-in without making my heart race. I like.
Great story. My buddy had a MR2 turbo and we spun it merging on to a freeway after we got done karting! A little too much excitement I guess.
They're fun cars for sure!
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