Ok, I'll Bite, what's the difference between an ST and an ST180?
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I think the ST180 might be the 2015, based on where I've been reading it posted... Interested in clarifying, myself.
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Is the 180 the 3-door?
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ST180 in the other markets is what we simply call the ST in the US/Canadian markets
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correct, the ST180 is the ST in Europe. The SVT Focus was renamed the ST170 in Europe and SVT Contour named the ST220, with the numbers meaning the power output. I think it uses the PS instead of HP scale, or it is HP but measured differently. It is the same engine and output, just different measurement.
The ST180 comes in a 3 door, has a different console/HVAC, a few options that are for the EU market, and has sexy headlamps. Otherwise, the ST180 and ST are the same cars.
The ST180 comes in a 3 door, has a different console/HVAC, a few options that are for the EU market, and has sexy headlamps. Otherwise, the ST180 and ST are the same cars.
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I know Europe doesnt let a car company include overboosting in it's stats, so I know its rated less HP in Europe, I guess thats the number they went with (rounded up a skosh as I believe its actually 179)
I just never heard it referred to as a ST180. Makes sense though, the Euros always have to be a little different.....or we do....depending on perspective.
I just never heard it referred to as a ST180. Makes sense though, the Euros always have to be a little different.....or we do....depending on perspective.
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it is really common for Ford to use alphanumeric designations, just like the other manufactures in Europe. The S1600 was a limited edition Fiesta that bridged the gap between regular and the ST. There has been the RS500, RS200, and countless other special edition cars over the past 30 years that use either power or engine size. Mountune uses the same naming convention, ie MP215.
ohskigod, you are right about overboost, I forgot about that being not included.
ohskigod, you are right about overboost, I forgot about that being not included.
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Yes, mk7 is the 7th generation of the Fiesta platform
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The fiesta is indeed the seventh generation mk7.
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I knew that!?!
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The EU Fiesta ST's numerical nomenclature is based on the output of its engine without overboost. 180hp without overboost 198hp with the overboost factored in.
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They are mechanically identical.
Eu has much stricter insurance regs and classed it as 180hp to keep it in a lower sub group.
That's all.
Eu has much stricter insurance regs and classed it as 180hp to keep it in a lower sub group.
That's all.
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It was a product of the 70s. We try not to think about it.
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Fiesta#Development
Theres a pretty good history on it. Although the article still talk of the mk6.
mk1 was the last Fiesta imported stateside. We were still recovering from the fuel crisis of the 70's and the german one was brought in to grab some sales from the MK1 Golf (rabbit & rabbit gti)
The bigger kent engine in the US cars was a good little engine.
But, with a return to $0.50/gallon gas there wasnt much need to continue importation vs the more fuel hungry US built cars.
Theres a pretty good history on it. Although the article still talk of the mk6.
mk1 was the last Fiesta imported stateside. We were still recovering from the fuel crisis of the 70's and the german one was brought in to grab some sales from the MK1 Golf (rabbit & rabbit gti)
The bigger kent engine in the US cars was a good little engine.
But, with a return to $0.50/gallon gas there wasnt much need to continue importation vs the more fuel hungry US built cars.
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